Please post comments inspired from today's seminar on Victor Frankenstein. If you completed the journal assignment, please include your "mathematical equation" along with your comments. Don't forget to read "Cooped Up" for tomorrow!!!
I think that Victor show us that we must take responsibility for our actions. I think he also helps us to see that we shouldn't run away from our problems in life, just because they scare us. (Like he did with the monster he created.) -Bre Johnson, 6th period.
In the seminar today the focus of conversation was mostly the relationship between the monster and victor, however the way I interpreted the journal assignment was to be slightly more focused on the development of Victor as an individual, so I examined two passages that represent the changes within him. The first passage took place at the beginning of his career in science where he almost suggested that he had no choice other than to become a scientist. Later, after all the main events have happened (mainly the creation of the monster) there is another passage I selected where Victor begins to realize "for the first time" that what he has done may reap some pretty serious consequences. I believe that Victor as a character may stand to symbolize the idea that whatever you do, however you go to that point, your actions have repercussions, good and bad, and its your responsibility to deal with the mess poi create. My equation: Motif of fate (passage one) and tone of realization (passage two)+theme that your actions have consequences, even if they came from an innocent place= UHT of taking responsibility or bad things will happen.
Going along with what Sofia said, this conversation was mostly about the relationship created between the monster and Shelly, but honestly i believe that the development of Victor was also showcased through the development of the character of the monster. We discussed the monster being devoid of soul, but in turn, since victor put his heart and soul into the work of creating the monster, could it be said that victor is really the monsters soul? Thus, with this representation, and also with the direct word choice to not only call the monster a "creature", but also the people "creatures" as well, assimilates the two groups and ultimately suggests that their is a little monster in all of us, ranging from emotions to our plain out personality. I also liked the topic of him being kind of mentally in, also playing into the idea of a "monstrous" (if you will) force that directs the direction our life is going in, hence his hallucinations.I think the desire to portray victor as a weak, helpless character honestly helps exaggerate the monster and the being he created, therefore showcasing ones emotions over their accomplishments. -Keilan Sayer
Today in the seminar someone mentioned that Victor portrayed God and the monster represented humanity. I never made this realization but I found it very interesting so with this idea I connected it to how God flooded the earth because mankind’s depravity had reached a level that evil entirely permeated every part of its being. God was upset with his creation and wanted to destroy it. I though this ties really well with Victor’s regret of creating the monster therefore he tried to destroy the monster.
During the discussion yesterday I found it interesting how someone commented about Victors Femininity and how the monster represented the masculine characteristics he wanted to be. And how that stemmed from the loss of his mother and its affect on his family.
Something we touched on during the seminar is how nature controlled everything. One thing that I noticed and thought was interesting is how a reverence of nature was prevalent through the entire novel, yet so much of the novel seemed to go against what is "natural" or "traditional." The creation of the monster in itself is an unnatural act and we also discussed how the family structure that Shelley portrayed was unnatural and dysfunctional in itself, particularly the family structure between the monster and Victor, who was the monster's "creator" or father. This contributes to the contradictory tone that the novel has along with the warring ideas of feminism that are also discussed often in connection with this novel.
I think that Victor show us that we must take responsibility for our actions. I think he also helps us to see that we shouldn't run away from our problems in life, just because they scare us. (Like he did with the monster he created.)
ReplyDelete-Bre Johnson, 6th period.
In the seminar today the focus of conversation was mostly the relationship between the monster and victor, however the way I interpreted the journal assignment was to be slightly more focused on the development of Victor as an individual, so I examined two passages that represent the changes within him. The first passage took place at the beginning of his career in science where he almost suggested that he had no choice other than to become a scientist. Later, after all the main events have happened (mainly the creation of the monster) there is another passage I selected where Victor begins to realize "for the first time" that what he has done may reap some pretty serious consequences. I believe that Victor as a character may stand to symbolize the idea that whatever you do, however you go to that point, your actions have repercussions, good and bad, and its your responsibility to deal with the mess poi create. My equation: Motif of fate (passage one) and tone of realization (passage two)+theme that your actions have consequences, even if they came from an innocent place= UHT of taking responsibility or bad things will happen.
ReplyDeleteGoing along with what Sofia said, this conversation was mostly about the relationship created between the monster and Shelly, but honestly i believe that the development of Victor was also showcased through the development of the character of the monster. We discussed the monster being devoid of soul, but in turn, since victor put his heart and soul into the work of creating the monster, could it be said that victor is really the monsters soul? Thus, with this representation, and also with the direct word choice to not only call the monster a "creature", but also the people "creatures" as well, assimilates the two groups and ultimately suggests that their is a little monster in all of us, ranging from emotions to our plain out personality. I also liked the topic of him being kind of mentally in, also playing into the idea of a "monstrous" (if you will) force that directs the direction our life is going in, hence his hallucinations.I think the desire to portray victor as a weak, helpless character honestly helps exaggerate the monster and the being he created, therefore showcasing ones emotions over their accomplishments.
ReplyDelete-Keilan Sayer
Today in the seminar someone mentioned that Victor portrayed God and the monster represented humanity. I never made this realization but I found it very interesting so with this idea I connected it to how God flooded the earth because mankind’s depravity had reached a level that evil entirely permeated every part of its being. God was upset with his creation and wanted to destroy it. I though this ties really well with Victor’s regret of creating the monster therefore he tried to destroy the monster.
ReplyDeleteDuring the discussion yesterday I found it interesting how someone commented about Victors Femininity and how the monster represented the masculine characteristics he wanted to be. And how that stemmed from the loss of his mother and its affect on his family.
ReplyDeleteSomething we touched on during the seminar is how nature controlled everything. One thing that I noticed and thought was interesting is how a reverence of nature was prevalent through the entire novel, yet so much of the novel seemed to go against what is "natural" or "traditional." The creation of the monster in itself is an unnatural act and we also discussed how the family structure that Shelley portrayed was unnatural and dysfunctional in itself, particularly the family structure between the monster and Victor, who was the monster's "creator" or father. This contributes to the contradictory tone that the novel has along with the warring ideas of feminism that are also discussed often in connection with this novel.
ReplyDeleteVictor represents every individual in a way. He expresses how a person has positive and negative effects depending on personal interpretations.
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